Not every good piece of dating advice originated with my dad. I wasn’t born yesterday, after all, and sometimes I learn a thing or two from my life experiences. For example, the other day I came up with a good tip while reading shoujo manga (that’s comics targeted at Japanese schoolgirls, in case you didn’t know).

This manga called F.O.X. is about a girl who meets a super cute fox that transforms into an attractive man. To her credit, she’s pretty freaked out at first. Then she goes home, where her mom tells her she’s taking off on vacation for two months and leaving the daughter at home with a distant cousin, who turns out to be the foxman. Then mom’s out the door, and the foxman tells the girl she has to marry him since she saw him in his true fox form. She’s all “screw that” and mails him across the country. Genius. Why didn’t I ever think of dealing with unwanted attention this way? And what’s more, this smart girl saves on money by mailing the guy when he’s in fox form!

Unfortunately, a few pages later, he shows up again and is all (I paraphrase) “Honey! I knew you would be missing my charming self so” (I quote) “I MAILED MYSELF BACK.” Doh.

Men (and women): do not mail yourself back. To quote a friend of mine, “Dude, she mailed you across the country! It doesn’t get clearer than that. Have some self-respect. Just accept it.”

This might be a bad example because in the manga the girl ultimately comes around to his way of thinking (of course). However, in real life, take my word for it: mailing yourself back never works.



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Rule 4: "He's a f---ing moron"
Posted by Ryan Roark on Nov 8, 2010

One time I liked this guy who didn’t like me back. My best friend said, “I have this book you should read, it’s called He’s Just Not That Into You.” My dad said, “He’s a f---ing moron.” Who do you think made me feel better? In fact I did not find my friend’s comment helpful; it just made me feel like some lame Bridget Jones lady (in the real world where Bridget Jones would definitely not be dating Colin Firth or Hugh Grant). I should point out that I haven’t actually read He’s Just Not That Into You, but I’m offended by it. This book insults me before I’ve even opened it; why would I want to read it?!

So the next time your friend bemoans his or her most recent romantic disappointment, rather than “help” interpret the signs, take a page out of my dad’s book. His approach would begin with his motto (“He’s a f---ing moron”) and then generally unfold into disturbingly graphic scenarios about what the boy in question might be doing instead of liking me, to the point that I would be left grossed out by the boy in question. Perhaps he was trying to use Pavlovian conditioning rather than give touchy feely advice like “move on” or “get over it already.”

(Incidentally, I think my dad used HAFM more or less indiscriminately about all boys I told him about, regardless of their level of interest in me, but since that doesn’t lead to a valuable life lesson that I can think of, we’ll just ignore that for now.)

Before I go on, I would like to point out that HAFM can only be successfully applied when a first date doesn’t produce a second, or when the love interest in question quits calling after a few dates (or similar). This technique should not be applied to the end of a long-term relationship. There are several reasons for this, but the most important (for you, as the supportive friend) is that your friend might take the ex back, share the HAFM talk with him, and they banish you for life. Or, alternately, the friend might not take the ex back but still share the HAFM talk with him, and he might come shoot you with his gun. In fact, I’ve done well to follow another piece of my dad’s advice, that you should never offer advice of the “break up with your boyfriend” variety to friends (unless the boyfriend is physically abusive or dangerous, though then you still risk the shot with gun scenario). One way or another, giving this sort of advice almost always backfires.

While HAFM might just sound like protective dad behavior, it’s worthwhile to cultivate your inner protective dad in this respect. Lots of my friends beat themselves up mercilessly when they’re blown off, and of course rejection always stings, but it’s important to be able to tell yourself HAFM, at least in the context of his ever becoming your boyfriend. Actually I find that, for me, my father’s level of rhetoric is only appropriate for a few cases of truly bad boy behavior, but in general I think it’s good to be able to see that, no matter how perfect you thought someone was on the first date or two, if he quits phoning you back (or generally does not show equal interest), he’s probably not going to make a very good boyfriend no matter how much you stalk him. It just wasn’t meant to be. If you need to badmouth him (in your head or to a friend) to get there from here, I see no problem with that. So, you see, at the end of the day my dad is just another proponent of Buddhist philosophy.



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Rule 3: "If you puke on a guy..."
Posted by Ryan Roark on Apr 29, 2010

Once upon a time when I was in high school, my father told me, “If you puke on a guy and he doesn’t like you too much, it will disgust him and he’ll be outta there, but if you puke on a guy and he likes you, it will make him like you more!”

I don’t recommend this as a barometer of interest—particularly as results are unlikely to be remembered clearly the next morning—but it seems that popular culture would bear him out. Consider Ten Things I Hate About You: in both the movie and the new show on ABC Family, Kat’s vomiting brings her closer to Patrick Verona.

(Imagine the TV execs adapting this scene from the movie:
Exec 1: Well this is ABC Family, after all, I say we skip this scene.
Exec 2: But it’s a fan favorite! According to our polls, fans love puke.
Exec 1: Well I suppose if we were to say that she regurgitates her meal due to food poisoning, rather than partaking in underage drinking...
Exec 2: But the vomit stays?
Exec 1: Yes, the vomit can stay.
Entire studio: YESSSSS!)

And in my favorite TV show, the British doctor comedy Green Wing, an epic romance-making kiss ensues after Dr. Mac helps Dr. Todd to up-chuck in the toilet at a house party. The best part about this scene is that in the DVD audio commentary, Tamsin Grieg (Dr. Todd) comments that she and several other cast members thought the kiss was too unbelievable, considering her character had just been sick, but Julian Rhind-Tutt (Dr. Mac) assured them that he had actually used this move in real life to pick up a girl. Now there’s a man who doesn’t need any dating tips!

It would seem my dad is onto something: up-chucking induces intimacy. And there is definite gender directionality, because I can’t imagine a romantic scene in a movie where a guy pukes on or near a girl and they proceed to make out.

(Side note: I’m not going to try too hard to get to the psychological basis of all of this; I imagine it is deeply rooted in gender roles, female vulnerability versus man as the protector, etc. In the spirit of asking What Would Dad Do?, let’s just forget feminism for the time being.)

For those of us who are not built of the stuff of legends like Dr. Mac, my dad’s observation points to a more user-friendly dating insight, and perhaps this is what my dad was actually trying to say (let’s give him the benefit of the doubt): once a man is committed, there isn’t much you can do to screw it up. Once a man is in a relationship, that’s end-game. Ladies, that doesn’t mean he won’t look at other women appreciatively or even that he won’t cheat on you or treat you wrong, but it does mean that the little annoying things you do are unlikely to affect any of that. As we all know, women are trigger-happy when it comes to the nitpicking even at the best of times, while men, like the captain of a ship, cling on for dear life even as the rats are making off with the last of the lifeboats.

I’m sure everyone knows at least one exception to this trend, but I have found it to hold more often than not. And I know I’m not the only one. I will now quote, for the first but not the last time, possibly the smartest movie about dating ever made, a straight-to-DVD film from 2002 called I’m With Lucy. In this film, Lucy goes on five blind dates, one of which results in marriage, and all of which result in valuable dating insights. Her first date (John Hannah, at his most loveable) is a repressed British entomologist who says of his recent divorce, “All we had left was friendship, and that’s not enough for a marriage. At least that’s what she said—and she was right, I know that.... Women are much braver than men. Men are much more reluctant to end things.” After all, women are said to initiate approximately 75% of divorces in America.

Lest you think I stray too far from my dad’s original message...

Men, here’s a piece of advice I’ve been saving just for you, from my dad: Once you get locked down, there isn’t much you can do, so before it’s too late, be sure you take a good look at the size of the girl’s mom. As Morrissey said, “Some girls’ mothers are bigger than other girls’ mothers,” so watch out for yourselves, boys!



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Rule 2: "Date them both!"
Posted by Ryan Roark on Apr 23, 2010
OK, to set the scene: you have to imagine me starting college, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed and all that... and, not having had a date since freshman year of high school, pretty sure of my role in the dating game, i.e. sitting on the bench. During orientation I espied a cute guy and instantly developed the kind of crush I was comfortable with: from afar with no hope of success. Pining was totally my speed. So imagine my surprise when this guy (let’s call him Biff, since that’s a name my dad liked to use for my “boyfriends”, meaning any boys I was interested in or spoke to) turned out to be in one of my classes, and then spoke to me! What’s more, I had laryngitis and couldn’t even speak back... such a failure. Once I could speak again, we started hanging out a LOT, but I naively assumed he thought of me as a friend and/or homework helper.

Meanwhile, in another class, I was getting to know another young man, whom we’ll call Skullcrusher (another one of dad’s favorites). Skullcrusher was also a model specimen of humanity and I liked him a lot, but all my crushing was focused on Biff.

To cut a long story short, about a month into all of this, both of these boys asked me out. Skullcrusher’s intentions were clear, even to me, but my read on Biff was still that he would never like me in that way. (He asked me out for a night-time date, though... I should have paid more attention to Rule #1!!!) So, I called up the guru himself, which went something like this:

Me: Biff and Skullcrusher both asked me out!
Dad: Way to go, Champ! I knew you had it in you.
Me: But, but, which one do I date?!?!? Obviously I like Biff, but Skullcrusher seems more into me, plus maybe he’s a better person? I just don’t know! ARRRRGGGGH.
Dad: Well, this is easy. Date them both!
Me: You’re joking, right??
Dad: No, and if another one comes along, date him too!
Me: But, I wouldn’t like it if I found out a guy I was dating was also dating another girl. In fact I would not go out with him again. (nb. In my lexicon, “dating” just means going on dates)
Dad: Of course not! But it’s different with guys. Check it out.
Me: Pfff. You are so stuck in the 70s... guess I’ll just have to sort this out for myself.

It seemed clear to me that my dad was being old-fashioned this time. Also, it should be noted that dating multiple people at the same time is an advanced maneuver, and therefore not an appropriate suggestion for a dating novice. But then my dad, you have to remember, was a legend. One time, he was living with one girlfriend, she went away for the weekend, and he boarded all of her stuff up in a closet and invited another girl to stay for the weekend. When the weekend girl asked why the closet was boarded up, he said a ghost lived in there and he was scared of it. And this worked!!!! Clearly he was not the person to comment on 21st-century male-female dynamics.

So I went to my nicest guy friends from my dorm and asked their opinion on the matter.
 
Me: If you were starting to date a girl, and you found out she was also starting to date someone else at the same time, that would be a deal-breaker, right?
Alpha guy: It would be a bummer, but not a deal-breaker.
Me: WHAT?!?!?!
Alpha guy: Well, yeah, if I found out about it, it would just make me try to be better than the other guy!
All of the other guys: Yeah, yeah, what he said.

So, not only is it ok to date two guys, it makes the guys you are dating BETTER?!?!? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think most girls work this way. In the end, my conclusion was that dating one guy is enough work. Dating two of them is just too much. And this whole situation freaked me out so much that I ended up dating neither Biff nor Skullcrusher! (If it weren’t for the fact that I look alarmingly like my father, who in turn looks alarmingly like Dick Cheney, one might start to suspect I was not actually related to him.)

Despite my predisposition to monogamy, I found this whole incident very interesting, and now I’m passing it on in case it will be more use to someone else than it was to me.

Postscript for parents: I was the squarest square in town growing up, despite this kind of advice from my parents... or perhaps because of it? Maybe reverse psychology works! Most kids rebel against their parents in the teenage years, so if you present as debauched and unscrupulous a front as possible, maybe they will turn into little saints. But don’t blame me if it doesn’t work. Scare tactics work too.


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Much of my father’s best advice dates back to that time when I was thirteen and dating my first boyfriend. While my father had said at first there was only one rule, it turned out there were in fact many, beginning with his classic: “Night time is the right time.” You would be surprised by how many people do not consider this common sense!

These days many people believe that afternoon coffee is a good first date. It is not. I think we can safely assume that my father’s logic had more to do with cornering the prey than it did with concerns about the “friend zone”, but it boils down to the same thing: There is a higher probability of sex after dinner than there is after lunch. My father would have argued that men and women can never be just friends, but I’m sure even he would agree that going out for lunch sends the signal that you’re not going to get it on. So, then, you might say that going out for lunch on a first date shows respect—wrong! It only shows respect if you’re assuming that after a dinner date a woman wouldn’t be able to resist jumping your bones, which I’m guessing is unlikely and totally negates the attempt to show respect in the first place. In the rare case where that’s true, well, you don’t need advice, do you?

One of the most important things about an evening date is that it has a natural end. Sure, if things are going well, you can go for dessert or drinks after, but then you get tired and you go home, no explanation required. A day-time date, on the other hand, implies either time constraints or limited interest. For example, if you are meeting during your lunch break, you have a constant deadline looming, causing unnecessary stress and distraction. But if you have nothing planned for after, how do you part ways? Any kind of explanation (e.g. “I have to go meet friends downtown now”) retroactively implies a deadline/distraction. But on the other hand, if things are going really well, you might be tempted to let the date go on and on, moving from lunch to coffee to some other activity and so forth. But then you are getting ahead of yourself and already acting like a couple—which means you are just that much closer to the next step of your relationship. No, I don’t mean marriage, I mean breaking up! OK, so maybe that’s not entirely true, but do you really want to skip all the dating fun and go straight to being a couple? Before you even know if you’d make a good couple? Please say no. No to day-time dating.

There is one exception I am willing to make, and that is for a blind first meet-up from a dating web site or similar. In that case, a date in daylight with an easy out is better in case the other person turns out to be a serial killer. However, if you want to show interest, you still run the risk of the awkward date-that-never-ends. If you’re pretty sure your date is not psychotic (or in some cases even if your date is), then you should be able to commit to at least 75 minutes, or however long a dinner takes.


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My father first laid down the law about dating when I started high school, a couple of weeks after I turned thirteen. “I have one rule for you now that you’re in high school: No dating boys who don’t drive. I am not driving you on dates. And if a boy isn’t old enough to drive, he isn’t old enough to date you.” You might think he was joking, but it turns out no! While I heartily pooh-poohed the notion that any boy would want to date me, he assured me that, whether I liked it or not, boyfriends were lurking around every corner and I needed to be prepared. Lo and behold, soon an eighteen-year-old friend of a friend decided to be my boyfriend, much to my father’s delight.

But this blog is not about my dating early and dating often. The truth about me is much less exciting. For most of my teenage years, I was ambivalent about dating and didn’t do much of it. However, this did not stop my dad from giving me a wealth of advice—most of it more appropriate for the stereotypical man interested in numbers than for a teenage girl. And my father deserves street cred as some sort of guru because, despite humble nerdy beginnings, he was by all accounts a legend in his heyday, dating women right and left and often at the same time.

Unlike my father, who was a bar owner, I am an academic scientist and run with a much tamer crowd, so I had my doubts about the relevance of his advice to my life. However, I have found that it adapts just fine, and armed with his advice, I have been very successful… in helping many a lonely man find romance! Some of his advice is even suitable for women. And so I have started this blog to preserve this great dating wisdom for posterity. Some of it is common sense, some seems insane, and some is so old-fashioned it dates back to a time even before he started dating (i.e. way before women’s lib). Almost all of it is politically incorrect. But it never fails to surprise me how true it is.


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